From owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Thu Aug 21 09:13:27 1997 Received: from majordom by teletub with local (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0x1SMf-0001Lh-00; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 09:13:09 +0100 Received: from florence.pavilion.net [194.242.128.25] by teletub with esmtp (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0x1SMc-0001Lc-00; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 09:13:07 +0100 Received: from [194.242.131.162] (dialup2-07.pavilion.co.uk [194.242.131.135]) by florence.pavilion.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA06885 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 09:11:27 +0100 (BST) X-Sender: dwilcox@mailhost.pavilion.co.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 09:13:18 +0100 To: conet@ukco.org.uk From: David Wilcox Subject: CONET ADDRESS CHANGE - CONFIRMATION Sender: owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: conet@ukco.org.uk Receipt of this message confirms that conet is now at conet@ukco.org.uk and you should send any messages for subscribers to that address, not conet@access-it.org.uk. As previous message, commands in futures to majordomo@ukco.org.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ David Wilcox, Director, UK Communities Online 13 Pelham Square, Brighton BN1 4ET, UK. Tel: +44 (0) 1273 677377. Fax: + 44 (0) 1273 677379 david@communities.org.uk http://www.communities.org.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Wed Aug 27 18:56:31 1997 Received: from majordom by teletub with local (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0x3mK5-0002Vu-00; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 18:56:05 +0100 Received: from quark.foobar.net [194.164.91.2] (root) by teletub with esmtp (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0x3mK2-0002Vp-00; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 18:56:02 +0100 Received: from telework.foobar.co.uk (telework.foobar.co.uk [194.164.93.150]) by quark.foobar.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA08269 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 18:53:26 +0100 Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 18:53:26 +0100 Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19970827185350.269f5d74@foobar.co.uk> X-Sender: telework@foobar.co.uk (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: conet@ukco.org.uk From: Trevor Locke Subject: Sustainable community initiatives Sender: owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: conet@ukco.org.uk At the risk of infringing copyright I am forwarding the following posting from the CVS list. The author is Director of Bradford Council of Voluntary Service. His discussion of voluntary sector funding will be of interest to those considering the sustainability of community networks a la non-profit, public sector enterprises and illustrates some of the dilemmas and challenges confronting voluntary sedtor funding. He writes: " We charge for training. We charge on a sliding scale for routine training courses at =A3100 local, =A3150 county, =A3200 beyond. All these are plus expenses - travel, accommodation etc. "Specials" can be done to include preparation time. In practice, specials get charged to people like local City Challenges who have lots of money rather than vol. orgs. or even local authority. Specials might cost up to =A3500. We also charge for a range of other things - photocopying, newsletter ads., room bookings, mailing lists, databases. Our biggest charging area is our payroll service, which is set up as a trading company. If you require guidance on our charging policies in any of these areas, mail me direct and I'll see what I can do. The situation with our funders regarding charging is complex. We are expected to maximise our income - indeed the council expects their grants to be used to lever in money from elsewhere. Where it gets tricky is charging for services that they feel they are giving you a grant to provide free. We have largely got round this by saying that, because free services were part of the original grant deal before cuts, we now have to charge to maintain services and, in effect, their grant is now to be used as a subsidy. Similar logic is used by Council departments e.g. Social Services, to justify charging clients for what were originally free services, so they would be hypocritical if they didn't accept the argument from us. This is not to say there aren't tensions. Council directorates don't always appreciate being charged for services because they feel free use of the service is included in the grant. Oddly, we get more of this from directorates who don't give us money! This brings accusations of vol.orgs. being money grubbing. Vol.orgs. mutter about the council wanting something for nothing, or wanting cake and eating same. There have been more criticisms of vol. orgs. charging for mainstream, rather than peripheral, services. For example, an organisation wanted to start charging for training sessions in management but the council complained that this was the core work for which the grant was given. Similarly, the council complained about groups accessing a training bursary fund to pay said group for training - they said this was double funding. Overall, much depends on sitting down with your grant unit/funders and working out some rules. You will obviously have your priorities for people who should get free or subsidised services, they will have theirs. We have found that, provided you can reach a broad agreement, you can get a workable system. Hope this is of help Anthony Clipsom Director " Anthony Clipsom Trevor Locke, Event and Project Services telework@foobar.co.uk http://members.aol.com/eventserv/ From owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Wed Aug 27 19:03:07 1997 Received: from majordom by teletub with local (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0x3mQs-0002WQ-00; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 19:03:06 +0100 Received: from quark.foobar.net [194.164.91.2] (root) by teletub with esmtp (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0x3mQo-0002WL-00; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 19:03:03 +0100 Received: from telework.foobar.co.uk (telework.foobar.co.uk [194.164.93.150]) by quark.foobar.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA08280; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 18:53:52 +0100 Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 18:53:52 +0100 Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19970827185450.13e7c862@foobar.co.uk> X-Sender: telework@foobar.co.uk (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: conet@ukco.org.uk From: Trevor Locke Subject: Sender: owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: conet@ukco.org.uk The usual apologies for cross-posting. UK Communities On-Line - First meeting of the Midlands Regional Group In order to help people to work together at a more local level, a number of regional groups are planned for the UK. One of the first of these will be the group for the Midlands Region. A meeting will be held in Leicester on the afternoon of Friday 12th September so that people involved or interested in community networks can get together to talk about how they can support each other, exchange information and cross-fertilise ideas within the Midlands (broadly defined - no absolute boundaries - include yourself in or out as you wish). The meeting will start at 2 p.m. and finish at about 4.30 p.m. and will be held at a venue in Leicester City Centre (there is no fee for the meeting but you will need to notify your attendance so you can be sent a map and directions). The venue will be near to the railway station and m/s car parking. We see the afternoon as offering an opportunity for Midlands Community Networkers to get to know each other, find out what is going on, what is doing what, talk about funding, maybe we can invite someone from the Government to talk to us, or the National Lottery, or the Local Authorities Association for the region - if you have particular interests or ideas about the content of the meeting and what you would like to get out of it, please send in your ideas. Please email your details and ideas to Trevor Locke on telephone 01455 274596 He will then make sure you know where the meeting is being held and will work with the Chair of UKCO to make the afternoon informative and productive. On the morning of the same day, there is a half day seminar called Civic Networks Today, taking place in Leicester. It is hoped that some of those attending the seminar will go on to the UKCO Regional Meeting in the afternoon. Information about the UKCO Regional Meeting is available from the UKCO web site and details of the Civic Networks seminar is on http://members.aol.com/eventserv/civicnet.htm Trevor Locke, Event and Project Services telework@foobar.co.uk http://members.aol.com/eventserv/ From owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Tue Sep 09 01:43:07 1997 Received: from majordom by teletub with local (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0x8ENy-00050v-00; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 01:42:30 +0100 Received: from quark.foobar.net [194.164.91.2] (root) by teletub with esmtp (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0x8ENw-00050q-00; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 01:42:29 +0100 Received: from telework.foobar.co.uk (telework.foobar.co.uk [194.164.93.150]) by quark.foobar.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA05315 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 01:40:30 +0100 Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 01:40:30 +0100 Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19970909014039.1a0f264c@foobar.co.uk> X-Sender: telework@foobar.co.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: conet@ukco.org.uk From: Trevor Locke Subject: Midlands Regional Meeting Sender: owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: conet@ukco.org.uk Friday 12th September First meeting of the Midlands Regional Group for UK Communities Online In order to help people involved in community networks to work together at a local level, a number of regional groups are planned for the UK. One of the first of these will be the group for the Midlands Region. A meeting will be held in Leicester on the afternoon of Friday 12th September so that people involved or interested in community networks can get together to talk about how they can support each other, exchange information and cross-fertilise ideas within the Midlands region (broadly defined - no absolute boundaries - include yourself in or out as you wish). The meeting will start at 2 p.m. and finish at about 4.30 p.m. and will be held at the offices of Leicester ITEC, ITEC House, 26 - 28 Chancery Lane, Leicester LE1 5WD, tel: 0116 254 7008. For a map of Leicester city centre, see the world wide web page: http://www.le.ac.uk/maps/citycentre.html This is very close to the venue for the Civic Networks Today seminar. On the morning of the same day, there is a half day seminar called Civic Networks Today, taking place in Leicester. It is hoped that some of those attending the seminar will go on to the UKCO Regional Meeting in the afternoon. For details of the morning seminar see http://members.aol.com/eventserv/civicnet.htm or the Communities Online web site. There is no charge for attendance at the midlands regional event but please advise your attendance so we know how many to expect. Enquiries about or registrations for either event can be made to Trevor Locke, e-mail telework@foobar.co.uk or telephone 01455 274596 [conet] Trevor Locke, Event and Project Services telework@foobar.co.uk http://members.aol.com/eventserv/ From owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Tue Sep 09 18:54:59 1997 Received: from majordom by teletub with local (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0x8UUt-0005Gq-00; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 18:54:43 +0100 Received: from dent.axion.bt.co.uk [132.146.16.161] by teletub with smtp (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0x8UUr-0005Gl-00; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 18:54:42 +0100 Received: from rambo.futures.bt.co.uk by dent.axion.bt.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 9 Sep 1997 17:40:40 +0100 Received: from mussel.futures.bt.co.uk by rambo with SMTP (PP); Tue, 9 Sep 1997 17:43:36 +0100 Received: by mussel.futures.bt.co.uk with Microsoft Exchange (IMC 4.0.837.3) id <01BCBD46.79CC16F0@mussel.futures.bt.co.uk>; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 17:33:24 +0100 Message-ID: From: Colin Millar To: "'conet@ukco.org.uk'" Subject: RE: Midlands Regional Meeting Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 17:38:21 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.837.3 Sender: owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: conet@ukco.org.uk Trevor, Apologies but although Id like to come, I am in Paris on another Project. I would be interested in the results of the meeting such that I could anticipate later participation. Many thanks, and good luck with the work..... Colin Millar BTL >---------- >From: Trevor Locke[SMTP:telework@foobar.co.uk] >Sent: 09 September 1997 01:40 >To: conet@ukco.org.uk >Subject: Midlands Regional Meeting > >Friday 12th September > >First meeting of the Midlands Regional Group for UK Communities Online > >In order to help people involved in community networks to work together >at a >local level, a number of regional groups are planned for the UK. One >of the >first of these will be the group for the Midlands Region. A meeting >will be >held in Leicester on the afternoon of Friday 12th September so that >people >involved or interested in community networks can get together to talk >about >how they can support each other, exchange information and >cross-fertilise >ideas within the Midlands region (broadly defined - no absolute >boundaries - >include yourself in or out as you wish). > >The meeting will start at 2 p.m. and finish at about 4.30 p.m. and will >be >held at the offices of Leicester ITEC, ITEC House, 26 - 28 Chancery >Lane, >Leicester LE1 5WD, tel: 0116 254 7008. > >For a map of Leicester city centre, see the world wide web page: > >http://www.le.ac.uk/maps/citycentre.html > >This is very close to the venue for the Civic Networks Today seminar. > >On the morning of the same day, there is a half day seminar called >Civic >Networks Today, taking place in Leicester. It is hoped that some of >those >attending the seminar will go on to the UKCO Regional Meeting in the >afternoon. For details of the morning seminar see >http://members.aol.com/eventserv/civicnet.htm or the Communities Online >web >site. > >There is no charge for attendance at the midlands regional event but >please >advise your attendance so we know how many to expect. > >Enquiries about or registrations for either event can be made to Trevor >Locke, e-mail telework@foobar.co.uk or telephone 01455 274596 > > >[conet] >Trevor Locke, Event and Project Services >telework@foobar.co.uk >http://members.aol.com/eventserv/ > > > From owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Wed Sep 10 01:20:16 1997 Received: from majordom by teletub with local (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0x8aVp-0005Mf-00; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 01:20:05 +0100 Received: from emout24.mail.aol.com [198.81.11.129] by teletub with smtp (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0x8aVn-0005MX-00; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 01:20:03 +0100 Received: (from root@localhost) by emout24.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id UAA01384 for conet@ukco.org.uk; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 20:17:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 20:17:07 -0400 (EDT) From: CMPrescot@aol.com Message-ID: <970909151407_1761622816@emout16.mail.aol.com> To: conet@ukco.org.uk Subject: Re: Midlands Regional Meeting Sender: owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: conet@ukco.org.uk Apologies from me as a representative from STEP (Stocksbridge), unfortunately tied up that day. But please keep informed of potential developments as we are keen to get involved. Very busy diary this month! chris prescott From owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Wed Sep 10 10:36:34 1997 Received: from majordom by teletub with local (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0x8jC5-0005Vz-00; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 10:36:17 +0100 Received: from ncet.org.uk [193.63.50.243] by teletub with smtp (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0x8jC3-0005Vu-00; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 10:36:16 +0100 Received: from ncetml1.ncet.org.uk by ncet.org.uk (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA00278; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 10:39:27 +0100 Message-ID: Date: 10 Sep 1997 10:12:58 U From: "Eta De Cicco" Subject: RE: Midlands Regional Meeting To: conet@ukco.org.uk X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP-MS 3.0.2 Sender: owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: conet@ukco.org.uk Trevor, <<>First meeting of the Midlands Regional Group for UK Communities Online > >In order to help people involved in community networks to work together >at a >local level, a number of regional groups are planned for the UK. One >of the >first of these will be the group for the Midlands Region. A meeting >will be >held in Leicester on the afternoon of Friday 12th September so that>> I have another appointment that day and can't make it. Apologies. Eta _______________________________________________________________________________ From owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Fri Sep 12 10:13:50 1997 Received: from majordom by teletub with local (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0x9Rml-0006BD-00; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 10:13:07 +0100 Received: from florence.pavilion.net [194.242.128.25] by teletub with esmtp (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0x9Rmg-0006B8-00; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 10:13:03 +0100 Received: from [194.242.131.166] (dialup0-35.pavilion.co.uk [194.242.131.35]) by florence.pavilion.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA01534; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 10:09:27 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 10:09:27 +0100 (BST) X-Sender: dwilcox@mailhost.pavilion.co.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: iacn@sheffield.ac.uk, conet@ukco.org.uk, telework@mailbase.ac.uk From: David Wilcox Subject: Community networking at Labour conference Sender: owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: conet@ukco.org.uk Hello all I hope members of the list will be interested in this announcement of an important event which should help put community networking on the policy agenda. Please join us on the day if you can make it. If you know an MP, councillor or activist who might be interested, please pass on this invitation. Alternatively, if you like them to receive a printed invitation, mail their name and address to info@communities.org.uk. And of course feel free to forward this message to anyone else who might be interested. Apologies for any resulting cross postings. Regards David ***************************************************************** COMMUNITY NETWORKING AT THE LABOUR CONFERENCE FRINGE Sunday September 28 1pm - 3.30pm Stakis Brighton Hotel. Free. ***************************************************************** The theme: Inventing the Future. Can new technologies help renew democracy? Can they regenerate communities? Sponsored jointly by UK Communities Online and UK Citizens Online Democracy. Presentations at 2pm from UKCO and UKCOD with BT Futurologist Ian Pearson. Also from Trimdon Digital Village, the community networking project in Tony Blair's constituency. See the Web site http://www.daelnet.co.uk/trimdon and video recently launched by the PM. Hear how the village ran its Web-building day. Mobile cybercafe provided by local community-friendly ISP Pavilion Internet http://www.pavilion.net , with news of community networking on the south coast from Sussex Community Internet Project http://www.scip.org.uk and other local groups. ***************************************************************** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ David Wilcox, Director, UK Communities Online 13 Pelham Square, Brighton BN1 4ET, UK. Tel: +44 (0) 1273 677377. Fax: + 44 (0) 1273 677379 david@communities.org.uk http://www.communities.org.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Thu Sep 18 16:47:19 1997 Received: from majordom by teletub with local (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xBimm-00014q-00; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 16:46:32 +0100 Received: from florence.pavilion.net [194.242.128.25] by teletub with esmtp (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xBimh-00014l-00; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 16:46:30 +0100 Received: from [194.242.131.57] (dialup0-34.pavilion.co.uk [194.242.131.34]) by florence.pavilion.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA19536; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 16:43:07 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 16:43:07 +0100 (BST) X-Sender: dwilcox@mailhost.pavilion.co.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: iacn@sheffield.ac.uk, conet@ukco.org.uk From: joff (by way of David Wilcox) Subject: Advanced Internet Training Via The Web Sender: owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: conet@ukco.org.uk >From the telework list --------------- We have had a great response to our earlier posting on this subject. We are however aware that a lot of people are only now returning from holiday and may have missed this information the first time. We hope this is of interest to you. J Picher Direcor Of the Internet Application Centre Manchester Metropolitan University Advanced Internet Training Via The Web A course delivered via the World Wide Web designed to effortlessly take participants through all aspects of the Internet. You can learn at your own pace, in any location. This course is currently available free for those resident in England Who will benefit ? Anyone who has a need or desire to use the many and varied Internet tools available today. Whether for work, school or entertainment. If expert or novice the GO course will enhance your use of the Internet. What will be covered ? All areas of the Internet that are commonly used in business and education. Downloading free software Electronic mail The World Wide Web Mailing Lists and Bulletin Boards Virtual environments How will I study ? The GO course can be accessed from anywhere in the world using your Macintosh or PC. You can study at a time and a place that best suits you. Clear instructions on screen will take you step by step through short exercises that, when combined, result in a wealth of Internet knowledge. How do I test how I'm doing ? At the end of each section there are a number of questions to help assess your progress. On successful completion you will be eligible for a nationally-recognised certificate at level 3, (NVQ equivalent) How will I be supported ?Many students use the course mailing list to share information and support each other in their studies. Tutor input is also available by telephone and Electronic Mail. The course has been piloted on a thousand people from all walks of life. The knowledge we have gained from this experience has been used to make your learning experience pleasurable and trouble free. Our automated systems will enable you to track your progress at any time during your study. Will my 'phone bill rocket ?On-line time can be minimised by downloading the course to your own computer. The whole course fits on a single floppy disk for easy portability. Who are the GO team ? The GO course is delivered in partnership by: IDEA (Innovation in Digital and Electronic Arts Ltd) IAC (Internet Application Centre Manchester Metropolitan University) Accredited through City College Manchester How do I get started ? Visit our introduction web page at http://www.idea.org.uk/GO/introduction. You can register for the course at the Web site below. http://www.idea.org.uk/CCM-GO Or visit the demonstarion site at http://www.idea.org.uk/GO/demo What people Say "Really excellent.." Anthony H Wilson (presenter Granada TV, The Program) "Gripping content matter. Excellent training course. I really enjoyed it." Filipa Lobo (Fashion designer) "Thanks for the training. great new horizons." Bill Smith (Small Business) "GO is an excellent package for a business like mine. Thanks on behalf of myself and colleagues! Good luck in the future." James Hegarty (Small Business) "great course. Didn't lose sight of the fact that you've got to cater for middle-aged non-techies like me" School Teacher (N Dalton) "A very good and logical route through the course modules" J Crawley ( London Underground employee) (w) tel: UK 0161 247 6178 (m) tel: 0976 233 587 Internet Application Centre : http://www.iacmmu.com From owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Mon Sep 22 23:37:07 1997 Received: from majordom by teletub with local (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xDH52-0000Hf-00; Mon, 22 Sep 1997 23:35:48 +0100 Received: from florence.pavilion.net [194.242.128.25] by teletub with esmtp (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xDH4x-0000HX-00; Mon, 22 Sep 1997 23:35:43 +0100 Received: from [194.242.131.94] (dialup1-30.pavilion.co.uk [194.242.131.94]) by florence.pavilion.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA28249 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 1997 23:32:51 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 23:32:51 +0100 (BST) X-Sender: dwilcox@mailhost.pavilion.co.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: conet@ukco.org.uk From: David Wilcox Subject: The Communities Online Campaign - full plans Sender: owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: conet@ukco.org.uk Hello all on conet - and particularly those who attended the Dunchurch event in August. Apologies for delays in following up that excellent event (thanks again GPT for hosting)... I'm still waiting on a couple of group leaders reports to prepare a note on the day....:-) Meanwhile Michael Mulquin, I and others on the steering group have been building on the ideas we generated. Ann Holmes has been working on the events programme. The results of this work can be seen at http://www.communities.org.uk/ukco/welcome1.html, where there is an outline of the campaign discussed at Dunchurch. We be talking about the campaign on Tuesday evening on VirginNet - see http://www.vigin.net/democracy - you can join in here via chat. Also at an event at Labour conference fringe - mail me if you missed details. A report of the steering group meeting which agreed the direction of the campaign is at http://www.communities.org.uk/ukco/rep1.html HEADLINES DTI is funding work over the next seven months to launch a three year campaign to promote community networking in the UK. Key components: - Emphasis on supporting bottom-up initiatives and promoting partnerships - A map and database of projects and areas showing the growth of community networking over the three years - A charter setting out what 'digital citizens' might expect in their area - A campaign library and DIY digital shop on the Web - a reworking of Communities Online Forum - A demonstration of 'Anywhere Online' - Campaign conference areas - this list and others - Campaign events - workshops, seminars, conferences. Formal launch March 1998. - Campaign admin and finances being handled under the auspices of Aston Charities, which employs steering group chair Michael Mulquin - no new organisation being set up THE SIX PROJECTS IDEA At Dunchurch, we discussed idea of choosing six project areas where the campaign could work to develop models. This produced some enthusiasm - but also unease about divisiveness. The steering group decided against. Instead we are going for a campaign of broad support with the map as a way of highlighting progress. Colour your area first :-) TOPIC TASK GROUPS One of the other things we discussed at Dunchurch was formation of task groups on topics including social inclusion, public access etc. Thanks to those group leaders who have set up discussion lists. If you haven't started discussions, don't worry. I should have a better 'editorial' framework shortly, plus suggestions on managing the groups. RESPONSIBILITIES I'm acting as director of the campaign, with emphasis on developing the campaign components above. Michael Mulquin, though nominally chair of the steering group, is doing more day to day work than is normal for that position (thanks Michael and Aston) and will be working on development of the network and also events, with Ann. We hope to develop a decentralised structure with roles for anyone prepared to contribute in return for contacts, recognition and a chance to develop ideas with other practitioners. While we don't have funding for local projects, we do hope to find ways for projects to use the campaign to gain additional resources. YOUR PARTICIPATION The DTI funding requires we rapidly prepare a business plan for the Campaign, and approach potential longer term funders - so we have to move fast to generate proposals. At the same time we are particularly concerned to design the campaign to meet local project needs. We hope to balance those requirements by a mix of online and face to face discussion. So... 1 Any immediate responses on the general ideas and shape of the campaign to this list please. 2 Please note we will be running a two-day event in York on December 16/17 to eview campaign components in detail. 3 Between now and December we can use this list and other one-to-one contact. We'll set up the topic groups discussed above, and also consider any other ideas for participation. Regards David -~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ David Wilcox, Director, UK Communities Online 13 Pelham Square, Brighton BN1 4ET, UK. Tel: +44 (0) 1273 677377. Fax: + 44 (0) 1273 677379 david@communities.org.uk http://www.communities.org.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Tue Sep 23 17:08:09 1997 Received: from majordom by teletub with local (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xDXVD-0000ba-00; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 17:07:55 +0100 Received: from dent.axion.bt.co.uk [132.146.16.161] by teletub with smtp (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xDXVB-0000bS-00; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 17:07:54 +0100 Received: from rambo.futures.bt.co.uk by dent.axion.bt.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 23 Sep 1997 15:30:26 +0100 Received: from mussel.futures.bt.co.uk by rambo with SMTP (PP); Tue, 23 Sep 1997 15:33:50 +0100 Received: by mussel.futures.bt.co.uk with Microsoft Exchange (IMC 4.0.837.3) id <01BCC834.99ED1F80@mussel.futures.bt.co.uk>; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 15:23:10 +0100 Message-ID: From: Colin Millar To: "'conet@ukco.org.uk'" Subject: RE: The Communities Online Campaign - full plans Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 15:28:30 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.837.3 Sender: owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: conet@ukco.org.uk DAvid, As I mentioned on the phone, please consider the Labs as an ongoing partner in the Campaign. We will be working up our contribution in partnership, and wish it every success. By the way, I get a 404 on the rep1.htm page. Regards Colin >---------- >From: David Wilcox[SMTP:david@communities.org.uk] >Sent: 22 September 1997 23:32 >To: conet@ukco.org.uk >Subject: The Communities Online Campaign - full plans > >Hello all on conet - and particularly those who attended the Dunchurch >event in August. Apologies for delays in following up that excellent >event >(thanks again GPT for hosting)... I'm still waiting on a couple of >group >leaders reports to prepare a note on the day....:-) > >Meanwhile Michael Mulquin, I and others on the steering group have been >building on the ideas we generated. Ann Holmes has been working on the >events programme. > >The results of this work can be seen at >http://www.communities.org.uk/ukco/welcome1.html, where there is an >outline >of the campaign discussed at Dunchurch. We be talking about the >campaign on >Tuesday evening on VirginNet - see http://www.vigin.net/democracy - you >can >join in here via chat. Also at an event at Labour conference fringe - >mail >me if you missed details. > >A report of the steering group meeting which agreed the direction of >the >campaign is at http://www.communities.org.uk/ukco/rep1.html > >HEADLINES > >DTI is funding work over the next seven months to launch a three year >campaign to promote community networking in the UK. Key components: >- Emphasis on supporting bottom-up initiatives and promoting >partnerships >- A map and database of projects and areas showing the growth of >community >networking over the three years >- A charter setting out what 'digital citizens' might expect in their >area >- A campaign library and DIY digital shop on the Web - a reworking of >Communities Online Forum >- A demonstration of 'Anywhere Online' >- Campaign conference areas - this list and others >- Campaign events - workshops, seminars, conferences. Formal launch >March >1998. >- Campaign admin and finances being handled under the auspices of >Aston >Charities, which employs steering group chair Michael Mulquin - no new >organisation being set up > >THE SIX PROJECTS IDEA > >At Dunchurch, we discussed idea of choosing six project areas where the >campaign could work to develop models. This produced some enthusiasm - >but >also unease about divisiveness. The steering group decided against. >Instead >we are going for a campaign of broad support with the map as a way of >highlighting progress. Colour your area first :-) > >TOPIC TASK GROUPS > >One of the other things we discussed at Dunchurch was formation of task >groups on topics including social inclusion, public access etc. Thanks >to >those group leaders who have set up discussion lists. > >If you haven't started discussions, don't worry. I should have a better >'editorial' framework shortly, plus suggestions on managing the groups. > >RESPONSIBILITIES > >I'm acting as director of the campaign, with emphasis on developing the >campaign components above. Michael Mulquin, though nominally chair of >the >steering group, is doing more day to day work than is normal for that >position (thanks Michael and Aston) and will be working on development >of >the network and also events, with Ann. > >We hope to develop a decentralised structure with roles for anyone >prepared >to contribute in return for contacts, recognition and a chance to >develop >ideas with other practitioners. While we don't have funding for local >projects, we do hope to find ways for projects to use the campaign to >gain >additional resources. > >YOUR PARTICIPATION > >The DTI funding requires we rapidly prepare a business plan for the >Campaign, and approach potential longer term funders - so we have to >move >fast to generate proposals. At the same time we are particularly >concerned >to design the campaign to meet local project needs. We hope to balance >those requirements by a mix of online and face to face discussion. >So... > >1 Any immediate responses on the general ideas and shape of the >campaign >to this list please. > >2 Please note we will be running a two-day event in York on December >16/17 >to eview campaign components in detail. > >3 Between now and December we can use this list and other one-to-one >contact. We'll set up the topic groups discussed above, and also >consider >any other ideas for participation. > >Regards >David > >-~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >David Wilcox, Director, UK Communities Online >13 Pelham Square, Brighton BN1 4ET, UK. > Tel: +44 (0) 1273 677377. Fax: + 44 (0) 1273 677379 >david@communities.org.uk http://www.communities.org.uk >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > From owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Wed Sep 24 09:41:58 1997 Received: from majordom by teletub with local (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xDn0n-0000vF-00; Wed, 24 Sep 1997 09:41:33 +0100 Received: from smtpgate2.poptel.org.uk [195.224.16.2] (root) by teletub with esmtp (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xDn0l-0000vA-00; Wed, 24 Sep 1997 09:41:31 +0100 Received: from [195.224.17.68] (argon.poptel.org.uk [195.224.17.68]) by smtpgate2.poptel.org.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5/DA97021903) with ESMTP id JAA13511 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 1997 09:39:31 +0100 Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 09:39:31 +0100 X-Sender: d.fitzpatrick@geo2.poptel.org.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: conet@ukco.org.uk From: David Fitzpatrick Subject: RE: Online foundation Sender: owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: conet@ukco.org.uk Good day all, As an aside - well done to all involved in the E-democracy discussion last night. It is a shame that the open discussion was at the very end; some of the points raised, especially about freedom of speech, will need to be debated again & again. **************** Re: an Online Foundation Computer Access, on whose server as you know this list (and many others) resides, is putting together an Online Foundation for the UK. We have some major companies supporting this and a wide range of the online community - including many of you reading this posting. Steven Clift has kindly given it his backing too as has the EU. I wish to try to ensure that as many people as possible feel enabled to participate in whatever way is appropriate. The essence is that there will be a well funded charitable vehicle that will ensure that the UK "community" can gain full advantage of the online revolution such as it be... It will be, of course, independent and as all encompassing as possible. If your organisation feels that it would like to be involved, please mail me personally (david@access-it.org.uk) and I will involve you in the process of development. There will be a closed list and a subsribed list created as soon as it is relevent. Best wishes David *************** David Fitzpatrick, M D Computer Access 90 De Beauvoir Road London N1 4EN Tel: 0171 241 2162 Fax: 0171 241 5007 David@access-it.org.uk From owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Mon Sep 29 22:43:01 1997 Received: from majordom by teletub with local (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xFnan-0003RH-00; Mon, 29 Sep 1997 22:43:01 +0100 Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.136] by teletub with smtp (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xFnak-0003RC-00; Mon, 29 Sep 1997 22:42:59 +0100 Received: from geoffw.demon.co.uk ([194.222.15.51]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa0922785; 29 Sep 97 21:52 BST Message-ID: Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 21:51:05 +0100 To: newnet@tagish.co.uk, conet@ukco.org.uk, iacn@sheffield.ac.uk From: Geoff Walker Subject: EU: Information Society Strategy MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Version 3.04 Sender: owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: conet@ukco.org.uk Posted for information from the EU Aries Bulletin Board... 11Sep97 EU: INFORMATION SOCIETY - COMMISSION STRATEGY FOR REFLECTING SOCIAL DIMENSION. The information society is likely to have positive implications for employment and these have to be maximised and distributed as effectively as possible throughout the EU. Account also has to be taken of the social repercussions, for training and labour flexibility, for example. In a bid to include this social dimension in the information society, the European Commission approved on July 23 a Communication presented by Social Affairs Commissioner Padraig Flynn outlining a new strategy in this area. This Communication is the sequel to the July 1996 Green Paper (Green Paper on living and working in the information society, people first). In the light of comments made and the recommendations made by a high- level group of experts, an action plan has been prepared with a view to improving the social dimension of the information society at national, regional, Community and international levels. Information and communication technologies (ICTs) are already making an impact in the diurnal round, but the speed at which they are introduced varies according to region, sector and social category. In view of the legitimate public concerns about the implications for employment or access to ICTs, the Communication urges the public authorities to provide support to the revolution so as to ensure a fair distribution of the potential prosperity. Access to ICTs at work and in training. One of the key aims is to make ICTs accessible to all members of the public. This implies targeting information campaigns on certain groups of people who are less inclined to take an interest in these technologies without some encouragement. The Communication presses the Member States to include this aim in their policy-making. Between now and January 1998, the Commission will be publishing a survey of the universal service provision in the telecommunications sector: the document will take stock of how the universal service is offered in the Member States (scope, quality and affordability). The EU's executive arm is also considering ways of promoting exchanges of experience on activities designed to facilitate access to ICTs. A substantial chunk of the budget for the EU's 5th Framework Programme of R & D is earmarked for research initiatives for making the information society more user- friendly. Flexibility and security at work. The Green Paper ushered in the concept of striking a fresh balance between flexibility for companies and security for workers. The changing relationship between new forms of working hours and the legal framework for employment is raising a number of problems that have to be considered in the context of the EU's social dialogue forum. These problems are considered as part of a debate related to another Green Paper (entitled partnership for a new organisation of work), published in 1996. Proposals for initiatives, developed on the basis of the contributions made, are to be presented during the first quarter of 1998, according to the Communication. The Green Paper also elicited a large number of comments about protecting personal data on employees. The Commission will be unveiling a Communication on this theme in the first quarter of 1998. The Communication also examines the problems surrounding tele-working. In spite of its obvious advantages (scope for working at home, flexibility, less job-related expenditure, less road traffic problems), tele-working is not catching on as quickly as anticipated in some Member States. The Commission estimated that there were 1.25m tele-workers in Europe in 1994, that is, 1.2% of the total European workforce. However, a common legal definition of tele-working has yet to be worked out. Some kinds of tele-work are covered by general laws, others by specific rules applying to work at home. The High-level Group of Experts in charge of this matter and the Information Society Forum recommend that the Member States set the record straight on the legal and fiscal status of tele- workers and that an adjustment be made to social provisions, stresses the Commission. The latter will be opening consultations with representative of labour and management in 1998 with a view to assessing the justification for Community action in this area. Impact on the labour market. A fundamental structural problem in Europe is the slow adjustment of skills to new economic structures. In this respect, the Communication recommends a new culture of life-long training, backed up by public investment in human resources. The Commission will continue to lend support to investment in human resources, via aid awarded by the European Social Fund under Objective 4 of the Structural Funds and via the ADAPT-BIS Community Initiative, with the financial allocation for 1997-99 period set at ECU 162m. It will also give support to employment in the so-called "third sector". A call for proposals to promote the use of ICTs by operators in the third sector will be opened shortly. -- #################################################################### # Geoff Walker | Tel/Fax: +44 191 510 1608 | UIN: 2641722 # # Email: geoffw@geoffw.demon.co.uk # # WWW: www.newnet.org.uk | www.geoffw.demon.co.uk/geoff.htm # #################################################################### From owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Thu Oct 09 21:10:25 1997 Received: from majordom by teletub with local (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xJOuf-0000Cm-00; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 21:10:25 +0100 Received: from florence.pavilion.net [194.242.128.25] by teletub with esmtp (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xJOuc-0000Ce-00; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 21:10:23 +0100 Received: from [194.242.131.143] (dialup1-12.pavilion.co.uk [194.242.131.76]) by florence.pavilion.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA02109 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 21:08:09 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 21:08:09 +0100 (BST) X-Sender: dwilcox@mailhost.pavilion.co.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: conet@ukco.org.uk From: Sussex Community Internet Project (by way of David Wilcox) Subject: Job Opportunities in Sussex Sender: owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: conet@ukco.org.uk SCIP exists to explore ways in which local people can benefit from new technologies. Having successfully bid for Single Regeneration Budget =46unding we are now offering contracts for two pieces of work, to be completed between 1st November and 31st March 1998. IT Support Work: To provide specialist IT support to the work of SCIP, especially in supporting use of the Internet amongst local community groups. This will include maintaining a web site and mailing list, carrying out a research project and assisting in training and support. Project fee =A33750. Project Management: To lead SCIP's work in providing training and specialist support to local community groups, with particular reference to monitoring and reporting on the achievement of SRB targets. Project fee =A34500. =46ull details of contracts can be obtained from: Gill Muncey, Sussex Community Internet Project, Community Base, Queens Road, Brighton BN1 3XE or mailto: info@scip.org.uk http://www.scip.org.uk From owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Fri Oct 10 17:15:01 1997 Received: from majordom by teletub with local (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xJhiP-0000kG-00; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 17:15:01 +0100 Received: from gn3.gn.apc.org [194.202.158.47] by teletub with esmtp (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xJhiL-0000k8-00; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 17:14:58 +0100 Received: from gn.apc.org [193.130.246.67](ag067.du.pipex.com [193.130.246.67]) by gn3.gn.apc.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA04445 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 16:33:09 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 16:33:09 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199710101533.QAA04445@gn3.gn.apc.org> X-Sender: cra@pop.gn.apc.org X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: conet@ukco.org.uk From: cra@gn.apc.org Subject: Edinburgh conference Sender: owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: conet@ukco.org.uk Dear Friends Following are latest details of the forthcoming community media conference in Edinburgh organised by the Community Radio Association, Institute for Local Television and Scottish Association of Smallscale Broadcasters.=20 If you wish to attend in person please complete the booking form attached. All are welcome, so please do pass this message on to your colleagues and friends.=20 If you are unable to take part physically but would like to take part in our parallel virtual conference please reply with the following message only: Steve Buckley ///////////////////////////////////////////////////// Community Media Conference=20 -------------------------- Tune In - Log On - Speak Out! The Right to Communicate in the Digital Age 24-25 October 1997=20 University of Edinburgh Conference Centre Organised by: Community Radio Association, Institute of Local=20 Television, Scottish Association of Smallscale Broadcasters Exploring the challenge of media convergence for community radio,=20 local television and community on-line networking and bringing=20 together experts, policy makers, practitioners, and international=20 guests to take part in: Panels and debate - Training sessions - Fringe meetings - Action workshops= =20 Cyber caf=E9 - Equipment exhibition - Demonstrations - Technical Advice Running order Friday 24 October 09.00 Registration 10.00 Welcoming remarks Brendan Murphy, Scottish Association of=20 Smallscale Broadcasters Dave Rushton, Institute of Local Television 10.10 Introduction and overview Lesley Pullar, Chair, CRA 10.20 Community media and public policy What public policy framework can best facilitate a=20 diverse and innovative community media sector? Dr. Lewis Mooney MP, former Shadow Minister=20 for Broadcasting Michael Thomson, General Manager, Community=20 Broadcasting Association of Australia John MacPherson, Chief Executive, Gaelic Broadcasting Fund 11.20 Break 11.50 Broadcasting regulation in the digital age What approaches to regulation are needed to meet=20 the challenge of digitalisation and convergence? Paul Bolt, Head of Broadcasting Policy,=20 Department of Culture, Media and Sport David Lloyd, Head of Programming and=20 Advertising, The Radio Authority Paul Smee, Director of Public Affairs,=20 Independent Television Commission 12.50 Introducing Castle Transmission International The successor to BBC transmission Paul Eaton, Business Development Manager, CTI 13.00 Lunch 14.30 Panel and debate: Community networking in the digital age communities on-line, local interactive networks,=20 radio and television meets the Web Speaker: David Wilcox, UK Communities Online Training workshops: 1. Local radio licence opportunities Applying for a local licence, short term services, broadcast planning and operation 2. New media production workshop Grassroots video making, making radio=20 adverts and jingles, web site construction 3. Running a media training course Training needs analysis, planning and running a=20 training course, assessment and evaluation 15.45 Break 16.15 Panel and debate: Local broadcasting in a digital future Digital radio and TV, new opportunities or new=20 gatekeepers, prospects for community media Speaker: Dr Brian Evans, Tantara Tec Training workshops: =09 1. Planning a local television service Accessing cable, Restricted Service Licences, technical=20 requirements, content and viability 2. New media production workshop Digital sound and video editing, teletext=20 assembly, interactive broadcast systems,=20 3. Knowing your audience Market research strategies, information sources,=20 surveying the potential audience 17.30 Break 18.00 Reception with finger buffet and drinks Sponsored by Castle Transmission International 21.00 Ceilidh at the Tron Bar Hosted by Scottish Association of Smallscale Broadcasters Saturday 25 October 09.15 Building the community media movement Consultative session on the CRA=92s future strategy 10.00 The right to communicate: a human right international perspectives on the right to a space for popular and grassroots communications Margaret Gillan, Community Media Network J=FCrgen Linke, Offener Kanal Berlin 10.45 Break 11.15 New media and community building Community media as a tool for developing=20 communities and tackling social exclusion Andy MacDonald, Craigmillar Community=20 Information Service Donald McTernan, Regional Manager,=20 Community Radio Association - London =09 12.15 a) CRA 1997 Annual General Meeting b) New media production workshop ... the final edit 13.15 Lunch 14.30 Main session:=20 Community media in multi-media Audio-visual presentation of the results of the=20 new media production workshops Action workshops: 1. Community media on-line networking Strategies and priorities for getting the community media movement on-line 2. Community media exchange Programme sharing, joint productions, local,=20 national and international co-operation 15.45 Break 16.00 Final plenary and closing remarks 16.30 Close ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Booking details --------------- The Venue: The conference takes place at the University of Edinburgh=20 Training and Conference Centre, 11 South College Street, Edinburgh,=20 a newly converted, state of the art venue located in the city centre=20 and easily accessible from the main bus and rail stations. There is=20 full disabled access and disabled toilet facilities at the venue. Fees: The venue is non-residential so accommodation has been reserved=20 at nearby locations for Thursday and Friday nights. Here are details of=20 the accommodation options to help you select from the packages below: Thistle Court Hotel: 3-Crown hotel approximately 1 mile from the=20 conference centre. All rooms en-suite with colour TV, direct dial=20 telephone, tea and coffee facilities. Bed and Breakfast: Various family-run guest houses up to 1/2 mile from=20 the conference centre. Most rooms en-suite with tea and coffee=20 facilities. You will be advised in which guest house you have been booked. Princes Street West Hostel: Good quality private hostel approximately 1=20 mile from the conference centre. Dormitory type accommodation with 4-8=20 beds per room. Breakfast not included. Package 1: Residential (Thistle Court Hotel) Includes 2 nights accommodation, meals and reception CRA members, arts/voluntary organisations =A3155.00 Non-members, statutory/commercial orgs =A3185.00 Package 2: Residential (Bed and breakfast) Includes 2 nights accommodation, meals and reception CRA members, arts/voluntary organisations =A3125.00 Non-members, statutory/commercial orgs =A3155.00 Package 3: Residential (Hostel) Includes 2 nights accommodation, lunches and reception CRA members, arts/voluntary organisations =A370.00 Non-members, statutory/commercial orgs =A3100.00 Package 4: Non-residential Includes conference pass, lunches and reception only CRA members, arts/voluntary organisations =A345.00 Non-members, statutory/commercial orgs =A375.00 Multiple bookings discount: For two or more delegates sharing=20 accommodation under Packages 1 and 2, there is a substantial discount.=20 Fees for second and subsequent delegates are 50 per cent of the rates=20 quoted. Please specify whether double or twin bedding is required.=20 There is no multiple bookings discount for Packages 3 and 4.=20 Booking: Please complete the booking form below and return with=20 payment. A map and directions will be provided on receipt of booking.=20 We recommend early booking as places are limited. ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Booking Form ------------ First Delegate Name ........................(single/double/twin*) Second Delegate Name ........................(single/double/twin*) Third Delegate Name ........................(single/double/twin*) Fourth Delegate Name ........................(single/double/twin*) * For Packages 1 and 2 please indicate accommodation type Organisation ............................... Address .................................... ............................................ Postcode ................................... Telephone .................................. Fax ........................................ E-mail ..................................... Special requirements if any ................ ............................................ Package booked and payment details ---------------------------------- First delegate =09 Package 1 (=A3155/=A3185) .......:.. Package 2 (=A3125/=A3155) .......:.. =20 Package 3 (=A370/=A3100) .......:.. Package 4 (=A345/=A375) .......:.. =09 Second delegate (50% of above rates) .......:.. Third delegate (50% of above rates) .......:.. Fourth delegate (50% of above rates) .......:.. =09 Total payment due .......:.. Please make cheques payable to <> and return with your booking form to: Keeley Scott, Community Radio Association 15 Paternoster Row, Sheffield S1 2BX E-mail bookings to cra@gn.apc.org will be invoiced payable within=20 7 days or on registration at the conference whichever is the sooner. =20 -----------------------------------------=20 CRA, 15 Paternoster Row, Sheffield S1 2BX Tel: +44 114 279 5219 Fax: +44 114 279 8976 E-mail: cra@gn.apc.org WWW: http:\\web.pobox.com\~cra ----------------------------------------- building the community media movement ----------------------------------------- From owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Sun Oct 19 17:30:32 1997 Received: from majordom by teletub with local (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xMyFL-0005Pe-00; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 17:30:31 +0100 Received: from florence.pavilion.net [194.242.128.25] by teletub with esmtp (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xMyFI-0005PW-00; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 17:30:30 +0100 Received: from [194.242.131.170] (dialup0-52.pavilion.co.uk [194.242.131.52]) by florence.pavilion.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA27532; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 17:27:42 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 17:27:42 +0100 (BST) X-Sender: dwilcox@mailhost.pavilion.co.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: iacn@sheffield.ac.uk, conet@ukco.org.uk, co-europe@loud-n-clear.com From: David Wilcox Subject: Community networking resources site Sender: owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: conet@ukco.org.uk FYI - a very useful site. Does anyone know of university departments in UK/Europe planning anthing similar? Apologies for any cross posting. Regards David ---------- Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 15:11:05 -0400 (EDT) From: "Katherine E. Degelau" X-Sender: kdegelau@testlogin.si.umich.edu To: cn.contacts@umich.edu Subject: Community Networking at UM MIME-Version: 1.0 =PRESS RELEASE== On October 18, the Community Networking Initiative, sponsored by the School of Information at the University of Michigan (UM-SI), unveiled its new site: The Community Connector [http://www.si.umich.edu/Community/] The Community Connector builds from our old page, the Community Networking Resource Site. In addition to enhancing our appearance, we are moving in new and invigorating directions. We are here not just to support community networks, but to support communities. * We have broadened our focus include all community information systems. * We have developed new collections of links. These new resources include examples of CN evaluation methods and mission and goal statements. We also include profiles of specific sites. * We have revamped our online journal, Currents. Its new title is Connections -- emphasizing the interconnectedness of all our communities. What haven't changed are the insightful articles and thoughtful profiles which you've come to expect from our site. * We will be adding a new feature which will allow you to quickly and easily search through our directory of community networks. * We have worked to make navigating through our site's resources even easier. Our search engine is now accessible from each page for your convenience. * Because we want to know what YOU think, we encourage feedback. Just click on the FEEDBACK link on any page to share your opinion. Questions? E-mail us at si.cn@umich.edu ******************** Katherine Degelau kdegelau@umich.edu Happy is he who causes scandal. Salvador Dali -~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ David Wilcox, Development Director, UK Communities Online +44 (0) 1273 677377. http://www.communities.org.uk To join low volume list mailto:majordomo@ukco.org.uk no subject, just the message: subscribe co-announce ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Tue Oct 21 17:32:24 1997 Received: from majordom by teletub with local (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xNhEF-0006Gv-00; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 17:32:23 +0100 Received: from mail.magnet.at [193.80.248.11] by teletub with esmtp (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xNhED-0006Gq-00; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 17:32:21 +0100 Received: from mis (mis.magnet.at [195.170.70.84]) by mail.magnet.at (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA21950; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 18:30:55 +0200 (CEST) From: g.woltron@magnet.at To: david@communities.org.uk Cc: iacn@sheffield.ac.uk, conet@ukco.org.uk, co-europe@loud-n-clear.com Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 19:31:22 +0200 Subject: Re: www.si.umich.edu/Community/ Message-ID: References: Organization: magnet Online Service MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-ID: X-Gateway: NASTA Gate 2.0 beta 3 for FirstClass(R) Sender: owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: conet@ukco.org.uk david@communities.org.uk,Inet writes:=20 >Does anyone know of university departments in UK/Europe planning anthing=20 >similar?=20 =20 =20 hi everybody,=20 =20 we are going to cover our site with topics like telework and community=20 networks in Austria. (It=B4s a small country, so it=B4s not that much=20 work like in the UK.)=20 =20 As "Center for Social Innovation" we are not only an independent social=20 science institute with lots of (non-research) activities, but also a=20 research partner institute of the University of Agriculture (sounds=20 strange, but it has nothing to do anymore with classical agriculture).=20 =20 greetings from Vienna, Gunter=20 From owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Wed Oct 22 09:02:28 1997 Received: from majordom by teletub with local (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xNvkK-0006YV-00; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 09:02:28 +0100 Received: from diable.upc.es [147.83.98.7] by teletub with smtp (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xNvkB-0006YQ-00; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 09:02:26 +0100 Received: from sert.ac.upc.es (sert.ac.upc.es [147.83.33.7]) by diable.upc.es (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA29215; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 09:18:20 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by sert.ac.upc.es (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA00609; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 09:20:46 +0100 (WET DST) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 09:20:46 +0100 (WET DST) Received: from artur.ac.upc.es(147.83.35.28) by sert.ac.upc.es via smap (V2.0) id xma000606; Wed, 22 Oct 97 09:20:41 +0100 X-Sender: artur@popserver.ac.upc.es Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: g.woltron@magnet.at From: Artur Serra Subject: Re: www.si.umich.edu/Community/ Cc: iacn@sheffield.ac.uk, conet@ukco.org.uk, co-europe@loud-n-clear.com Sender: owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: conet@ukco.org.uk >david@communities.org.uk,Inet writes: >>Does anyone know of university departments in UK/Europe planning anthing >>similar? > We are just starting in Barcelona, at the Universitat Politecnica of Catalonia, the Center for Networking Applications, CANET-UPC, http://aleph.ac.upc.es/canet Community networking is one of our priorities. See you, Artur Artur Serra Universitat Politecnica de Catalunya. Campus Nord. Gran Capita, s/n , Modul D6-008 Barcelona 08034 tel, +34-3-4017182 fax, +34-3-4017055 artur@ac.upc.es From owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Wed Oct 22 10:04:38 1997 Received: from majordom by teletub with local (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xNwiU-0006Zr-00; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 10:04:38 +0100 Received: from post.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.27] by teletub with smtp (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xNwiS-0006Zm-00; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 10:04:36 +0100 Received: from [195.40.173.20] ([195.40.173.20]) by post.mail.demon.net id ab2025758; 22 Oct 97 9:30 BST Comments: Authenticated sender is From: entevents@pop3.demon.co.uk To: IIB@pop3.demon.co.uk Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 17:16:50 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: Quoted-printable Subject: UK public sector Internet use - free e-mail newsletter X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42) Message-ID: <877509026.2025758.0@[195.40.173.20]> Sender: owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: conet@ukco.org.uk Hi there - I'm just running through some e-mail addresses of contacts in the area of public sector Internet/communications technology use, to let people know about a new free e-mail newsletter on public sector Internet use in the UK which I edit, Internet Intelligence Bulletin. The newsletter is a monthly, edited version of our fortnightly subscription-only service, but is intended as a valuable information source in its own right for everyone interested in public sector Internet; community networking; government Internet policy; etc etc. I attach a sample copy below for your information: if you would like to receive them regularly, please e-mail subs@iib.com with 'Subscribe free-version' in the subject header. If you do not reply, you will not receive any further communications. Best wishes, Dan Jellinek, Editor ************************************************ Internet Intelligence Bulletin Free Version OCTOBER 1997 ********************************************************** SECTION ONE: NEWS ********************************************************** MOVES TO WIRE UP ALL SCHOOLS * * * Government proposes huge, organic educational network * * * The government unveiled a range of measures this week aimed at connecting all the nation's schools to the Internet by 2002. It intends to create a huge, organic network of educational services and forums for exchange of ideas between teachers, pupils, libraries and museums which will sit within the wider Internet, to be known as the National Grid of Learning. The grid will begin as a prototype based on Department for Education and Employment servers next year, and the aim is to develop it through a network of separate schemes run by individual schools or groups of schools in partnership with private sector consortia, which will be given National Grid certification by the government. Some =A350 million is to be spent next year by the DfEE on communications technology for schools, and sources say that similar amounts have been earmarked for the subsequent three of four years. The =A350m is being allocated on a 50-50 part-funding basis, with schools being required to find a matching amount from existing budgets; private sector sponsorship; or fund-raising from parents or governors. This is an accepted method of funding schools capital schemes. However, some schools have expressed fears that private sector sponsorship from IT-related companies may tie them in to other computer-related deals which restrict what they can do with technology. Further money from the lottery - also around =A350m a year, the Bulletin has learned - has been pledged to train existing teachers in technology awareness and use, to bring all teachers up to the same level as new student teachers, who from next year will all receive technology training. CONSULTANCY CATALOGUE A government-run on-line catalogue of public sector IT consultancy services, S- CAT, is due to be launched on Monday. See the `What's new' section of the Government Information Service next week for details: http://www.open.gov.uk AT THE CUTTING EDGE The Society of Public Information Networks (SPIN) is holding a conference in Bristol on 1 December on the cutting edge of local authority public information services including information kiosks, Internet sites, intranet systems and community partnerships. Full details at: http://www.spin.org.uk ********************************************************** SECTION TWO: CASE STUDY: BRITISH TOURIST AUTHORITY ********************************************************** GARGANTUAN SITE TO DRAW IN VISITORS TO BRITAIN The British Tourist Authority's new logo - a deconstructed Union Jack with swirls and patches of colour - follows another modernising move at the authority which received less coverage but is no less important. This was the July launch of the 40,000 page `VisitBritain' web site, trumpeted by Culture, Media and Sport Secretary Chris Smith as "possibly the largest, most comprehensive web site launched in Britain to date". The site, said Mr Smith, would provide tourists across the world with one-stop access to information on Britain's attractions as a holiday destination. Its features include: * An interactive map to help locate information, places to visit, events, and tourist information centres; * a `virtual brochure', an innovative feature which allows visitors to store items of interest from around the web site in one place; * a shop selling books, guides and gifts; * detailed information about destinations in England, Scotland and Wales, including extensive photography; * a media room, with press releases, background information and broadcast quality video vaults; and * special travel offers. This gargantuan site was born out of a pilot BTA web site in May 1996, which was set up to test the water and see where hits would come from. The pilot site was produced in-house, and by gathering e-mail and other feedback made some surprising discoveries: that 40% of users were women, for example, and a significant proportion were over 50 years old. Less surprisingly, it was found that most of the e-mail came from the US, but the remainder came from a very wide range of countries. Subsequent work on the full-scale VisitBritain site began nine months ago, providing an Internet front-end to the BTA's existing TRIPS tourist information database. BTA spokesman Laurence Bresh says the site is aimed largely at the overseas market, although the British public and the travel industry were also intended to be major user groups. The web interface is intended to handle all levels of inquiry from all groups, he said, being able to drill down to a local level as well as providing basic information on topics such as the currency, voltage supply and so on. The authority is funded largely by the government, although it does have to find some private sector funding, and intends to reach a position where the Internet service pays for itself through selling advertising space - British Airways is already an advertiser - offering special travel deals, and offering hotels and others the chance to provide more detailed information to users at a cost. There are already around 20,000 accommodation sites listed, and hotels can pay extra to have enhanced entries including pictures of rooms, e-mail links and more detailed information. E-mail booking is also possible. The total set-up cost in the first year is =A3300,000, including design fees, technological costs and staff, Mr Bresh says. "We'd like to see that dramatically reduced in future years, and aim to break even in our second year. We want to be the leading tourist authority Internet site in the world - and we don't know of any other on this scale". But the main aim in the short term, Mr Bresh says, is simply to ensure the existing huge site is kept running smoothly. "We want to keep on top of it and ensure it is kept up to date - so first we want a period of stability, before we tune it finer to different markets", he said. "We have created a monster, and we need to keep feeding it". VisitBritain is at: http://www.visitbritain.com ********************************************************** SECTION THREE: LAW - ELECTRONIC COMMERCE ********************************************************** LIFTING THE BARRIERS TO FREE ELECTRONIC COMMERCE The new government has wasted no time in declaring its commitment to a `wired' society. This week Prime Minister Tony Blair entertained Microsoft chief Bill Gates at 10 Downing Street in return for Mr Gates' views on how to achieve the vision of a `National Grid for Learning' - the linking of all UK schools to the Internet. This makes it an interesting time to take a look at what legal steps other governments have recently taken to encourage, or discourage, the growth of the Internet. In July this year President Clinton launched the US government's report `A framework for electronic commerce' which takes a hands-off approach to Internet regulation, and also declares that there should be no new taxes or separate tax regime for business conducted online. The most important legal principles outlined in the report are that: * Government should avoid undue restrictions. Parties should be able to enter into agreements to buy and sell across the Internet "with minimal government involvement or intervention"; and * "Electronic commerce over the Internet should be facilitated on a global basis". A legal framework - based on a model law drafted by the United Nations Commission on International Trade Law - should be "governed by consistent principles across state, national and international borders". Contrast the US approach with some recent developments in Europe. Earlier this year the European Union considered proposing a `bit tax' - a levy intended to tax every bit of data moving over the Internet, regardless of what kind of data is being moved - and although that proposal was dismissed at a conference in Bonn in July (with the German economics minister telling delegates "there should be no discriminatory taxes and laws placed on the Internet") in Germany itself computer users are now facing a new levy of around =A3120 on each PC capable of downloading video content from the Internet (whether or not it is actually used for this purpose). So while the US declares itself `open for business' in cyberspace, Europe is still trying to decide whether or not to grab the tiger's tail. * * * Jonathan Riley, Lawrence Graham * * * E-mail: jonathan.riley@lawgram.co.uk Tel: 0171 379 0000 Web: http://www.lawgram.com ********************************************************** SECTION FOUR: SITE TO SEE ********************************************************** http://turva.me.tut.fi/~oshweb OSHWEB is a Finland-based index of occupational health and safety resources on the Internet, which will be of interest to many public sector managers. The range of material is broad and lively. Information presented falls under many categories, including chemical safety; emergency management; ergonomics/human factors; fire safety; government agencies; human-computer interaction; information services; international organisations; occupational medicine; product safety; risk management; and relevant Usenet newsgroups. Alongside the more mainstream links, we find links to more off-beat resources such as the `Emergency Preparedness Information Center' (http://www.theepicenter.com), which will help you prepare for natural disasters from hurricanes to tsunamis. ends From owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Wed Oct 22 11:00:34 1997 Received: from majordom by teletub with local (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xNxac-0006bG-00; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 11:00:34 +0100 Received: from Nzambi.qub.ac.uk [143.117.14.23] by teletub with esmtp (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xNxaa-0006bB-00; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 11:00:32 +0100 Received: from fujin.qub.ac.uk by Nzambi.qub.ac.uk with SMTP-QUB (PP); Wed, 22 Oct 1997 09:53:10 +0000 Received: from x25.qub.ac.uk by fujin.qub.ac.uk (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA28860; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 10:56:48 +0100 From: "David R. Newman" To: David Wilcox cc: co-europe@loud-n-clear.com, conet@ukco.org.uk, iacn@sheffield.ac.uk Subject: Re: Community networking resources site Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 10:51:04 +0100 () X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.0.9 X-Authentication: none MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: conet@ukco.org.uk On Sun, 19 Oct 1997 17:27:42 +0100 (BST) David Wilcox wrote: > Does anyone know of university departments in UK/Europe planning anthing > similar? > The Community Connector > [http://www.si.umich.edu/Community/] 1. Isn't that what the Communities Online site already does? 2. If you look at the umich credits page, you find that it is the work of 10 research assistants. Well, we only have 1.5 research assistants in Belfast, so we are only putting together some pages covering the results of our research on evaluating community networks. If others can come up with another 8.5 people to contribute to a "supersite" then we too could do something similar between us. ---------------------- Dr. David R. Newman, Queen's University Belfast, School of Management, BELFAST BT7 1NN, UK Tel. +44-1232-335011 FAX +44-1232-249881 http://www.qub.ac.uk/mgt/ mailto:d.r.newman@qub.ac.uk From owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Thu Oct 23 03:37:54 1997 Received: from majordom by teletub with local (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xOD9I-00070L-00; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 03:37:24 +0100 Received: from mailsrv.hiway.co.uk [195.12.1.3] (root) by teletub with esmtp (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xOD9F-00070C-00; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 03:37:22 +0100 Received: from Chris.coventry.org.uk (chris.coventry.org.uk [195.194.23.50]) by mailsrv.hiway.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.6) with SMTP id DAA00567 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 03:36:34 +0100 Message-Id: <199710230236.DAA00567@mailsrv.hiway.co.uk> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Chris Studman" Organization: Ecosaurus To: conet@ukco.org.uk Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 03:36:04 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Late delivery of messages In-reply-to: <199710101533.QAA04445@gn3.gn.apc.org> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Sender: owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: conet@ukco.org.uk Can anyone tell me why I'm just getting messages from two weeks ago? Isn't conet an automatic mailing list? Several of the messages (eg Edinburgh conference) relate to events taking place in the next two days - timescale is therefore a bit short!!!!! Chris Studman Chris Studman Ecosaurus 210 Broadgate House, Broadgate, Coventry CV1 1NG UK Tel: 01203 630476 Fax: 01203 630518 From owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Thu Oct 23 07:34:35 1997 Received: from majordom by teletub with local (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xOGqf-000747-00; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 07:34:25 +0100 Received: from florence.pavilion.net [194.242.128.25] by teletub with esmtp (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xOGqd-000741-00; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 07:34:24 +0100 Received: from [194.242.131.182] (dialup2-54.pavilion.co.uk [194.242.131.182]) by florence.pavilion.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA07158 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 07:32:48 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 07:32:48 +0100 (BST) X-Sender: dwilcox@mailhost.pavilion.co.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199710230236.DAA00567@mailsrv.hiway.co.uk> References: <199710101533.QAA04445@gn3.gn.apc.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: conet@ukco.org.uk From: David Wilcox Subject: Re: Late delivery of messages Sender: owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: conet@ukco.org.uk At 3:36 am +0000 23/10/97, Chris Studman wrote: >Can anyone tell me why I'm just getting messages from two weeks ago? Sorry, a bad email address hung the list. Should be fixed now David -~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ David Wilcox, Development Director, UK Communities Online +44 (0) 1273 677377. http://www.communities.org.uk To join low volume list mailto:majordomo@ukco.org.uk no subject, just the message: subscribe co-announce ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Mon Oct 27 21:40:13 1997 Received: from majordom by teletub with local (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xPwsi-0001dj-00; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 21:39:28 +0000 Received: from gn3.gn.apc.org [194.202.158.47] by teletub with esmtp (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xPwsf-0001de-00; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 21:39:26 +0000 Received: from CRA [193.130.242.219](ac219.du.pipex.com [193.130.242.219]) by gn3.gn.apc.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA04728 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 21:46:07 GMT Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 21:46:07 GMT Message-Id: <199710272146.VAA04728@gn3.gn.apc.org> X-Sender: cra@gn.apc.org X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: conet@ukco.org.uk From: cra@gn.apc.org (Steve Buckley) Subject: UK community media platform Sender: owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: conet@ukco.org.uk - NEWS RELEASE - 26 October 1997 Community broadcasters establish cross-media platform Members of the Community Radio Association voted at their annual meeting on 25 October 1997 to change the name of the organisation to Community Media Association. At the same time the Association changed its objects to reflect an extended remit "to advance the education of the public in all aspects of community media" and agreed a new ten point Community Media Charter. Representatives of community-based radio, television, cable and on-line services from throughout the U.K gathered in Edinburgh over two days for a community media conference on the Right to Communicate in the Digital Age. The event was jointly organised by Community Radio Association, Institute of Local Television and Scottish Association of Smallscale Broadcasters. Speaking at the conference, Dr Lewis Moonie, Labour MP for Kirkcaldy and former Shadow Minister for broadcasting, said: "There has been a significant amount of legislative change but for the most part it has been aimed at large scale broadcasters and programme providers. Information like any other resource is distributed unevenly and there will always be information rich and information poor, but community media could go a long way to redressing the imbalance." The Community Media Charter affirms the values which are supported by members of the renamed Community Media Association. The Charter endorses the freedom of expression and information and asserts the fundamental role of community media in promoting the right to communicate. It is based on the European Charter of the World Association of Community Radio Broadcasters which has already been adopted by associations in Ireland, Netherlands and other European countries. The Community Media Association is seeking recognition and support for community media within the UK policy framework for broadcasting and communications. The Community Media Charter will now form the basis of a cross media platform for action in support of community media development. The Association will be presenting detailed proposals for the development of community media in the run up to new legislation which is anticipated in the next two to three years. -ends- Further information: Steve Buckley Tel: 44 (0) 114 279 5219 Notes 1. A summary of the conference proceedings is available by e-mail from and will be posted shortly at 2. The full text of the Community Media Charter follows: Community Media Charter Recognising that community media foster the freedom of expression and information, the development of culture, the freedom to form and confront opinions and active participation in local life; noting that different cultures and communities lead to a diversity of forms of community media; this Charter identifies objectives which community media share and should strive to achieve: 1. To promote the right to communicate, to assist the free flow of information and opinions, to encourage creative expression and to contribute to the democratic process and a pluralist society; 2. To provide access to training, production and distribution facilities, to encourage local creative talent, to foster local traditions, and to provide services for the benefit, entertainment, education and development of their audience; 3. To seek to have their ownership representative of local geographically recognisable communities or of communities of common interest; 4. To be editorially independent of government, commercial and religious institutions and political parties in determining their programming policy; 5. To provide a right of access to minority and marginalised groups and to promote and protect cultural and linguistic diversity; 6. To honestly inform their audience on the basis of information drawn from a variety of sources and to provide a right of reply to any person or organisation subject to serious misrepresentation; 7. To be established as organisations which are not run with a view to profit and to ensure their independence by being financed from a variety of sources; 8. To recognise and respect the contribution of volunteers, to recognise the right of paid workers to join trade unions and to provide satisfactory working conditions for both; 9. To operate management, programming and employment practices which oppose discrimination and which are open and accountable to all supporters, staff and volunteers; 10. To foster exchange between community media practitioners using communications to develop greater understanding in support of peace, tolerance, democracy and development. ----------------------------------------------------------- Community Media Association 15 Paternoster Row, Sheffield S1 2BX Tel. 44 (0) 114 279 5219 Fax. 44 (0) 114 279 8976 E-mail. cra@gn.apc.org WWW. http:\\www.pobox.com\~cra ----------------------------------------------------------- From owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Sun Nov 02 22:06:56 1997 Received: from majordom by teletub with local (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xS89O-0004Jj-00; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 22:05:42 +0000 Received: from arl-img-5.compuserve.com [149.174.217.135] by teletub with esmtp (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xS89M-0004Jb-00; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 22:05:40 +0000 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by arl-img-5.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/2.8) id RAA14049 for conet@ukco.org.uk; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 17:03:33 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 17:03:04 -0500 From: Alan Denbigh Subject: EUROPEAN TELEWORK WEEK - November 3rd-10th. To: "INTERNET:conet@ukco.org.uk" Message-ID: <199711021703_MC2-2677-10DD@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: conet@ukco.org.uk EUROPEAN TELEWORK WEEK - November 3rd-10th. This is a list of all the UK based activities in European Telework Week, including a free webcast of the major conference, Telework World. PLEASE FORWARD THIS MESSAGE TO ANYONE YOU THINK WILL BE INTERESTED. Than= k you. CONFERENCE Telework World 97 is a three day conference with 37 speakers, 3 formal disucsion groups, and 3 SIG events. One stream is devoted to case studie= s. Alongside the conference will be demonstrations of the lastest technology= from BT, AT&T, Siemens and others. The event takes place on Nov 5-7th, a= nd is located in London Docklands. URL: www.cix.co.uk/~teleworkevents Email: teleworkevents@cix.co.uk Tel: 01189 623 292 VIDEOCONFERENCE The Wednesday Nov 5th morning session of Telework World will be videoconferenced to the following locations in Scotland Wales and England= =2E = Skye Data Services, Portree Isle of Skye Tel : 01478 612 841 or 01478 612 983 = Presteigne Community Resource Centre, Powys Tel : 01544 260168 = Wren Telecottage Tel : 01203 696986 Fakenham Learning Centre Tel : 01328 864939 The videoconference is supported by the Telework, Telecottage & Telecentr= e Association and the European Telework Development project (ETD). Full details URL: www.tca.org.uk/telwk97.htm WEB-CAST The Computer Science department of the University of Wales at Aberystwyth= will translate the videoconference output into a Webcast . Attendees should collect a free copy of RealPlayer5 from www.real.com = For connection to the webcast visit the Telework World site at = URL: www.cix.co.uk/~teleworkevents and click on the webcast link. ONLINE SURVEY During ETW the UK Telework Platform is supporting a web-based survey into= teleworking practices in UK businesses. You are invited to take part in the survey by accessing: URL: teleworking.madeeasy.com Respondents to the on-line survey will be able to download, free of charg= e, the findings of the earlier Corporate Telework Survey - researched and published by Small World Connections - who are also running this on-line survey. = ENDS.... From owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Tue Nov 04 14:10:06 1997 Received: from majordom by teletub with local (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xSjfS-0004tw-00; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 14:09:18 +0000 Received: from florence.pavilion.net [194.242.128.25] by teletub with esmtp (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xSjfN-0004tr-00; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 14:09:16 +0000 Received: from [194.242.131.162] (dialup1-09.pavilion.co.uk [194.242.131.73]) by florence.pavilion.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA29062 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 14:07:09 GMT Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 14:07:09 GMT X-Sender: dwilcox@mailhost.pavilion.co.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199710101533.QAA04445@gn3.gn.apc.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: conet@ukco.org.uk From: David Wilcox Subject: Hello again conet Sender: owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: conet@ukco.org.uk Hello everyone on conet... the list for anyone interested in the practicalities of developing community networks, resource centres, Digital Cities, Digital Villages... etc First, apologies that this list has been rather quiet, without updates on development of the Communities Online Campaign (reminder - see link from http:www.communities.org.uk for details). Campaign development is being funded by the DTI, and we are fundraising with potential industry sponsors. Several reasons for silence: both Michael Mulquin and I have had illnesses on our families... and there was a technical clitch which held things up... and we have been working furiously on various fronts. However, you will shortly receive a message from our events organiser Ann Holmes about an event inYork December 16/17. This will be a great opportunity for people involved in community networking to help shape the way the campaign develops, including: - A UK map showing the location and spread of community networking - Major developments in the Web site to provide community networking resources - A game and demo to facilitate start ups and partnership building - More events, discussion lists and other ways of sharing experience - Developments around particular topic areas All this will follow on the discussions some of us had in Dunchurch, and provide an update of lots that's happened since. Between now and the York event the team working on Campaign development will provide more detailed updates, which can feed discussion at York and provide an opportunity for discussion for those who can't make it. A quick who's who: Michael Mulquin, who has been chair of UKCO, is taking an active role in campaign development and will provide a further update shortly. Peter Mason and Mark Walker are working with me on the Web site and discussion lists Ann Holmes is organising events Drew Mackie is developing a community networking game .... plus about a dozen others on the steering group. Thanks everyone. I've been in the middle of developing UKCO in various forms over the past two years and will stay with the campaign as we launch next year... though very happy for others to take on different aspects! My plan is to concentrate more on the campaign 'products' as Michael leads on overall development. One of the areas we will explore on this list and face to face is the best way in which the UKCO campaign can help broker funding and support for local projects. I'm away from November 6 for a week's holiday (without email:-) but will be back online after that. Meanwhile over to you Ann, Michael and anyone else who wants to join in Regards David -~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ David Wilcox, Development Director, UK Communities Online +44 (0) 1273 677377. http://www.communities.org.uk To join low volume list mailto:majordomo@ukco.org.uk no subject, just the message: subscribe co-announce ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Wed Nov 05 23:07:30 1997 Received: from majordom by teletub with local (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xTEW4-0005Mf-00; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 23:05:40 +0000 Received: from florence.pavilion.net [194.242.128.25] by teletub with esmtp (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xTEVz-0005MX-00; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 23:05:38 +0000 Received: from [194.242.131.171] (dialup1-54.pavilion.co.uk [194.242.131.118]) by florence.pavilion.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA08165 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 23:03:32 GMT X-Sender: pic@mailhost.pavilion.co.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 23:03:37 +0100 To: conet@ukco.org.uk From: Ann Holmes Subject: UKCO Workshop Sender: owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: conet@ukco.org.uk =46ollowing the message from David, I am writing to invite you to take par= t in UKCO's two day workshop, at which you will get the opportunity to test the Communities Online Campaign products being developed. These include: * map - an online clickable database of projects and community networking services * charter - a set of criteria and guidelines for the above * DIY Toolkit and website - a library and store of articles and "how to" materials * game - an interactive simulation of the process of creating an online community Come and make sure that the products are developed in a way which is beneficial to you.Early ideas for the campaign can be found linked from the UKCO site http://www.communities.org.uk The workshop will take place * from midday Tuesday 16 December 1997 to 5 pm Wednesday 17 December 1997 * at the University College of Ripon and York, St. John, Lord Mayor's Walk, York =46ees, to be forwarded with registration forms, include all meals and accommodation and are: * local voluntary projects - =A325 (+ VAT) * national voluntary and academic organisations - =A350 (+ VAT) * local authorities -=A375 (+ VAT) * corporate sector -=A3100 (+ VAT) A number of bursaries will be available - Please let me know if you require further details. Registration forms and programme details will be available from next week and forwarded on request. =46ocus Group I am drawing together a focus group of 6-8 people, to monitor and evaluate events. The group will meet after: * the December workshop * one of the 1998 summer seminars - to be held in London * the Annual Conference - 18/20 September 1998, in York. Those selected to be members of this group, which will seek to encompass the various interests within UKCO, will receive free places at the above events and dinner, bed and breakfast following the focus group meetings, which will take place immediately after the events. If you would like to be considered for membership, please let me have the following details: * age * occupation (if any) * employer (if applicable) * address * particular areas of interest (in relation to UKCO) With all good wishes Ann From owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Thu Nov 06 15:34:28 1997 Received: from majordom by teletub with local (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xTTwo-0005dF-00; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 15:34:18 +0000 Received: from quark.foobar.net [194.164.91.2] (root) by teletub with esmtp (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xTTwm-0005dA-00; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 15:34:16 +0000 Received: from telework.foobar.co.uk (telework.foobar.co.uk [194.164.93.150]) by quark.foobar.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA11251 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 15:32:56 GMT Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 15:32:56 GMT Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19971106163258.191f87d0@foobar.net> X-Sender: telework@foobar.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: conet@ukco.org.uk From: Trevor Locke Subject: Re: UKCO Workshop Sender: owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: conet@ukco.org.uk I would like to apply for a bursary. I am an individual with no organisation to fund my attendance. Trevor Locke At 23:03 05/11/97 +0100, you wrote: >Following the message from David, I am writing to invite you to take part >in UKCO's two day workshop, at which you will get the opportunity to test >the Communities Online Campaign products being developed. These include: > >* map - an online clickable database of projects and community networking >services >* charter - a set of criteria and guidelines for the above >* DIY Toolkit and website - a library and store of articles and "how to" >materials >* game - an interactive simulation of the process of creating an online >community > >Come and make sure that the products are developed in a way which is >beneficial to you.Early ideas for the campaign can be found linked from the >UKCO site http://www.communities.org.uk > >The workshop will take place > >* from midday Tuesday 16 December 1997 to 5 pm Wednesday 17 December 1997 >* at the University College of Ripon and York, St. John, Lord Mayor's Walk, >York > >Fees, to be forwarded with registration forms, include all meals and >accommodation and are: > >* local voluntary projects - =A325 (+ VAT) >* national voluntary and academic organisations - =A350 (+ VAT) >* local authorities -=A375 (+ VAT) >* corporate sector -=A3100 (+ VAT) > >A number of bursaries will be available - Please let me know if you require >further details. > >Registration forms and programme details will be available from next week >and forwarded on request. > >Focus Group > >I am drawing together a focus group of 6-8 people, to monitor and evaluate >events. The group will meet after: > >* the December workshop >* one of the 1998 summer seminars - to be held in London >* the Annual Conference - 18/20 September 1998, in York. > >Those selected to be members of this group, which will seek to encompass >the various interests within UKCO, will receive free places at the above >events and dinner, bed and breakfast following the focus group meetings, >which will take place immediately after the events. > >If you would like to be considered for membership, please let me have the >following details: > >* age >* occupation (if any) >* employer (if applicable) >* address >* particular areas of interest (in relation to UKCO) > > >With all good wishes > >Ann > > > > > > > Trevor Locke, Event and Project Services, Conferencing Consultants Helping the world to talk. Developing new projects telework@foobar.co.uk # http://members.aol.com/eventserv/ From owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Thu Nov 06 16:09:52 1997 Received: from majordom by teletub with local (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xTUV4-0005e8-00; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 16:09:42 +0000 Received: from smtpgate2.poptel.org.uk [195.224.16.2] (root) by teletub with esmtp (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xTUV3-0005e3-00; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 16:09:41 +0000 Received: from Michael.newtel.org.uk ([151.133.225.6]) by smtpgate2.poptel.org.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5/DA97021903) with SMTP id QAA03833 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 16:08:19 GMT Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19971106154652.00811a10@geo2.poptel.org.uk> X-Sender: aston-ciu@geo2.poptel.org.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 15:46:52 +0000 To: conet@ukco.org.uk From: Michael Mulquin Subject: Re: UKCO Workshop In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: conet@ukco.org.uk Hi folks! Just to remind us that anybody wishing to book or enquire about the UKCO workshop should mail Ann Holmes, our events organiser, directly. She is at: pic@pavilion.co.uk Let's keep conet for issues of general interest. Michael Mulquin Aston Community Involvement Unit/UK Communities Online Durning Hall, Forest Gate, London E7 9AB, England Tel +44 (0)181 519 2244 Fax +44 (0)181 519 5472 From owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Tue Nov 11 23:01:05 1997 Received: from majordom by teletub with local (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xVPHq-0000U3-00; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 22:59:58 +0000 Received: from smtpgate2.poptel.org.uk [195.224.16.2] (root) by teletub with esmtp (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xVPHp-0000Ty-00; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 22:59:57 +0000 Received: from Michael.newtel.org.uk ([151.133.225.6]) by smtpgate2.poptel.org.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5/DA97021903) with SMTP id VAA16092 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 21:28:20 GMT Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19971111210552.007f3cd0@geo2.poptel.org.uk> X-Sender: aston-ciu@geo2.poptel.org.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 21:05:52 +0000 To: conet@ukco.org.uk From: Michael Mulquin Subject: Come to York, 16 and 17 December!! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: conet@ukco.org.uk Dear All, Ann Holmes, our events organiser, has already mailed you about the exciting programme we will be running in York on 16th and 17th December. This is to give you some background, so that you can see how it will benefit you to join with us. As you know, UK Communities Online is all about putting the new media technologies into the hands of local communities. If we are to succeed in this, whether at a national or a local level, we need to be clear as to what are the key online services that local communities need.=20 For instance, at the moment I am telling people that what communities need is:=20 =B7 A well-organised 'gateway' on the Web signposting information, online services and access points in the area =B7 Strategic action to ensure that all sections of the community have acces= s to the technology, with appropriate training and support. =B7 The ability to "do business" locally, including paying council Tax, booking appointments with GPs etc. =B7 Democracy Online. A community conferencing system providing public space for information and discussion, with inputs to local authorities and agencies where these are online. =B7 Support for small businesses, community and voluntary organisations and special interest groups to enable them to use the new technology= effectively. What have I missed out that you think is of vital importance? Is there anything listed that could well be left out Can you think of a better way of clustering the different ideas together? In York we will be look at these issues together so that we can come to a concensus. This will ensure that we have a solid basis for the map and charter that will be the focus of the UKCO campaign. However, it will also help us individually in our work in developing services for local= communities. York will also give us the opportunity to further develop practical applications we can start to work on collaboratively over the next few months to save each of us from having to work through issues in isolation. The two days will be hard work, but I hope that each one of us will take away many useful ideas to the projects in which we are engaged. Ann will be mailing out the registration forms in a few days. See you in York!! Michael Mulquin Aston Community Involvement Unit/UK Communities Online Durning Hall, Forest Gate, London E7 9AB, England Tel +44 (0)181 519 2244 Fax +44 (0)181 519 5472 From owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Wed Nov 12 09:59:09 1997 Received: from majordom by teletub with local (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xVZYv-0000j8-00; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 09:58:17 +0000 Received: from quark.foobar.net [194.164.91.2] (root) by teletub with esmtp (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xVZYt-0000j3-00; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 09:58:15 +0000 Received: from telework.foobar.co.uk (telework.foobar.co.uk [194.164.93.150]) by quark.foobar.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA14970 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 09:56:45 GMT Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 09:56:45 GMT Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19971112105649.3237c3ea@foobar.net> X-Sender: telework@foobar.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: conet@ukco.org.uk From: Trevor Locke Subject: Re: Come to York, 16 and 17 December!! Sender: owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: conet@ukco.org.uk Hello All >As you know, UK Communities Online is all about putting the new media >technologies into the hands of local communities. If we are to succeed in >this, whether at a national or a local level, we need to be clear as to >what are the key online services that local communities need. It is an assumpton that there is a pre-existing need. I thinks it often in some areas about creating an interest. But I am sure that what Michael really said here (journalist licence) is that local organisers need to identify and respond to local community needs for information and communications and then help them to secure those needs through the Internet, etc. This is an important value-point - important to word exactly - that its not us telling them what they need but vice versa - and I think Michael would agree with this. > >For instance, at the moment I am telling people that what communities need >is: So even though Michael wrote the above words what he actually meant was "I am reflecting what communities tell me they need..." just so we dont give the wrong idea by being ambiguous .... {I agree with the list that came here} >What have I missed out that you think is of vital importance? Is there >anything listed that could well be left out Can you think of a better way >of clustering the different ideas together? Yes I think the map could be better drawn with three major divisions - community, public sector and business. There are then 3 - 4 layers of subjects and topics beneath each of these - but thats just information-ology. Education almost deserves a category on its own. > >In York we will be look at these issues together so that we can come to a >concensus. You hope!!! :) And the rest is all fine and worthy. But there is one issue that I think need some airing at York - ideology and values. At the moment UKCOL is position in a rather 70S style community development time warp - with most of thinking being old labour rather than new labour. so to speak. At Rugby I found tensions between those who had anti-commercial anti-business values, who saw communities in rather romantic and purist terms, who couldnt stomach the idea of getting money from advertising for local projects - who wanted a purely public sector - rather modernist - set of values to dominate local practice. Not everyone agrees with this orientation. Im infavour of working with the private sector, of having a well oiled business support function within local on-line projects, of using commercial interests to fund charitable, non-profit activities. I would like the conference to debate the pros and cons of local projects running as buisnesses, being commercially successful and making profits that are then covenanted back into the project. I would like to see some on-lines run as community businesses, being independently sustainable and not permantly with thier hand in the public purse. To me sustainability is all about leaving grant aid behind and becoming self-sustaining as a community business. But I would like an opportunity to debate that orientation with those who would not agree with it. regards Trevor Locke Trevor Locke, Event and Project Services, Internet Services Helping the world to talk. Developing new projects telework@foobar.co.uk # http://members.aol.com/webwork/ From owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Wed Nov 12 12:24:30 1997 Received: from majordom by teletub with local (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xVbqD-0000ld-00; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 12:24:17 +0000 Received: from smtpgate2.poptel.org.uk [195.224.16.2] (root) by teletub with esmtp (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xVbqC-0000lY-00; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 12:24:16 +0000 Received: from arl-img-8.compuserve.com (arl-img-8.compuserve.com [149.174.217.138]) by smtpgate2.poptel.org.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5/DA97021903) with ESMTP id MAA26984 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 12:22:48 GMT Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by arl-img-8.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/2.8) id HAA17692 for conet@ukco.org.uk; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 07:21:24 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 07:17:57 -0500 From: Alan Denbigh Subject: Come to York, 16 and 17 December!! To: "INTERNET:conet@ukco.org.uk" Message-ID: <199711120721_MC2-27DC-ADA2@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: conet@ukco.org.uk Michael = I think you have missed out the Telecottage/Telecentre network and the fa= ct that it spawns resource centres and telematic facilities in village halls= =2E = I think people need to know what is there already so that they don't re-invent the wheel, but build on what is already there..... Alan Denbigh Exec Director, TCA -------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- ------------------------------- TCA - The Telework, Telecottage and Telecentre Association Membership Enquiries 0800 616008 (Outside UK + 44 1203 696986) Executive Director on tel 01453 834874 fax 01453 836174 Email 100272.3137@compuserve.com Web : http://www.tca.org.co.uk The TCA is a member of the European Telework Development Project (ETD) The TCA is an Information Society Initiative (ISI) partner -------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- ------------------------------ From owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Wed Nov 12 21:46:24 1997 Received: from majordom by teletub with local (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xVkbx-0000xK-00; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 21:46:09 +0000 Received: from MCR1.poptel.org.uk [195.224.16.15] by teletub with smtp (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xVkbp-0000xF-00; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 21:46:07 +0000 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 21:44:22 +0100 GMT From: INFO.UNLIMITED@MCR1.poptel.org.uk Subject: Re: Come to York, 16 and 17 December!! To: conet@ukco.org.uk Message-Id: <1197147237MCR1@MCR1.poptel.org.uk> Sender: owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: conet@ukco.org.uk Alan Denbigh wrote: > Michael > I think you have missed out the Telecottage/Telecentre network and the > fact > that it spawns resource centres and telematic facilities in village > halls. > I think people need to know what is there already so that they don't > re-invent the wheel, but build on what is already there..... I strongly agree with this point. I have just read the Library and Information Comission Working Party on IT, which is called 'New Library: The People's Network' and was disappointed that there is no mention of telecentres as places where people can access new communcations technologies and recieve training. The report suggests that this work should be done in libraries, but surely we have a great deal to learn from the experience of telecentres (and community networks and what they have achieved and learnt in terms of access to new technolgies - they were not mentioned either!). I don't doubt that libraries could be a good place for people to use IT, but all of the UK is not a homogenous blob - each community should be has different needs and circumstances, and the best approach has to be one that investigates what already exists, how well it works, what can be improved upon, what people want etc etc. Debbie Ellen From owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Wed Nov 12 21:56:19 1997 Received: from majordom by teletub with local (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xVklc-0000xq-00; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 21:56:08 +0000 Received: from smtpgate2.poptel.org.uk [195.224.16.2] (root) by teletub with esmtp (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xVklb-0000xl-00; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 21:56:07 +0000 Received: from ae168.du.pipex.com (ae168.du.pipex.com [193.130.244.168]) by smtpgate2.poptel.org.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5/DA97021903) with SMTP id VAA00825 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 21:54:40 GMT Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 21:54:40 GMT Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19971112225626.1d778234@geo2.poptel.org.uk> X-Sender: aston-ciu@geo2.poptel.org.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: conet@ukco.org.uk From: Michael Mulquin Subject: Re: Come to York, 16 and 17 December!! Sender: owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: conet@ukco.org.uk At 07:17 12/11/97 -0500, you wrote: >Michael >I think you have missed out the Telecottage/Telecentre network and the fact >that it spawns resource centres and telematic facilities in village halls. >I think people need to know what is there already so that they don't >re-invent the wheel, but build on what is already there..... > Alan, thanks for your comments. I wasn't leaving telecottages out. I was trying to reflect on the general areas of need rather than on particular ways of meeting some of those needs. However you are quite right to stress that we don't forget the hugely important resources that you, and those working with you have built up. Please keep reminding me!! What I would apprectiate is your thoughts on where Telecottages might feature in my list. Clearly one of their roles is in promoting access by providing public access centres, training and support. Do you think they have a role in some of the other areas as well - eg in helping people to "do business" online etc? I do hope that you can make it to York as you have been working in this field much longer than mnost of us and can clearly give us lots of useful advice. Take care! Michael Mulquin UK Communities Online Aston Community Involvement Unit Durning Hall, Forest Gate, London E7 9AB Tel 0181 519 2244 0171 473 4750 (h) From owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Thu Nov 13 00:31:28 1997 Received: from majordom by teletub with local (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xVnAx-00012U-00; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 00:30:27 +0000 Received: from arl-img-2.compuserve.com [149.174.217.132] by teletub with esmtp (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xVnAv-00012M-00; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 00:30:25 +0000 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by arl-img-2.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/2.8) id TAA16318 for conet@ukco.org.uk; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 19:27:52 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 19:27:33 -0500 From: Alan Denbigh Subject: Re: Come to York, 16 and 17 December!! To: "INTERNET:conet@ukco.org.uk" Message-ID: <199711121927_MC2-27FA-2CC5@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: conet@ukco.org.uk Michael, you said wrt to telecottages : = >>Clearly one of their roles is in promoting access by >>providing public access centres, training and support. Do you think th= ey >>have a role in some of the other areas as well - eg in helping people t= o "do >>business" online etc? Definitely !!! I would say that they are keen to do this and if anything the shift has been away from community access and towards more commercial services as time as has gone on. This echoes Trevor Locke's point that in order to create sustainability, this is the direction that has been followed. = BTW a clickable telecottage map is on our web page (www.tca.org.uk) and a= s we update this we will add in direct links to these. = Regards Alan = From owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Thu Nov 13 09:34:38 1997 Received: from majordom by teletub with local (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xVvfL-0001IU-00; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 09:34:23 +0000 Received: from ruralwales.net [163.164.63.100] by teletub with esmtp (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xVvfI-0001IP-00; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 09:34:20 +0000 Received: from post.powys.gov.uk ([172.16.1.13]) by gateway1.ruralwales.net with SMTP id <22433>; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 10:27:59 +0000 Received: from borg.powys.gov.uk by post.powys.gov.uk via Connect2-SMTP 4.00 (0000939); Thu, 13 Nov 97 09:32:27 +0000 Received: from TIMF_LAPTOP (TIMF_LAPTOP [172.16.114.74]) by borg.powys.gov.uk (NTMail 3.02.13) with ESMTP id ta071883 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 09:36:21 +0000 Received: by timf.powys.gov.uk with Microsoft Mail id <01BCF017.2BFDD220@timf.powys.gov.uk>; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 09:33:17 -0000 Message-ID: <01BCF017.2BFDD220@timf.powys.gov.uk> From: Tim Fletcher To: "'conet@ukco.org.uk'" Subject: RE: Come to York, 16 and 17 December!! Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 09:33:15 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BCF017.2C057340" Sender: owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: conet@ukco.org.uk ------ =_NextPart_000_01BCF017.2C057340 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just like to say a few words on this excellent discussion -----Original Message----- From: Michael Mulquin [SMTP:michael@communities.org.uk] Sent: 12 November 1997 21:55 To: conet@ukco.org.uk Subject: Re: Come to York, 16 and 17 December!! At 07:17 12/11/97 -0500, you wrote: >Michael >I think you have missed out the Telecottage/Telecentre network and the fact >that it spawns resource centres and telematic facilities in village halls. >I think people need to know what is there already so that they don't >re-invent the wheel, but build on what is already there..... > Alan, thanks for your comments. I wasn't leaving telecottages out. I was trying to reflect on the general areas of need rather than on particular ways of meeting some of those needs. However you are quite right to stress that we don't forget the hugely important resources that you, and those working with you have built up. Please keep reminding me!! What I would apprectiate is your thoughts on where Telecottages might feature in my list. Clearly one of their roles is in promoting access by providing public access centres, training and support. Do you think they have a role in some of the other areas as well - eg in helping people to "do business" online etc? [] 'Telecentres Powys' see telecentres as places where people and increasingly SMEs can 'see, feel, touch and smell the technology' in a non pressurised setting. They need to be able to see how ICT can be applied to their own unique circumstances and requirements. For this reason we see that it is important to be able to offer community Email and community web space i.e.the whole package. We are achieving this through the use of Linux Boxes. In rural Powys local democracy issues are also high on the agenda, telecentres can be instrumental in developing a sense of community. The development of this social role will however take a very long time I feel although having said that we already have our virtual community of telecentres! Electronic commerce is an area that I think a large number of businesses will need help with. Those that are aware of ICT are ok but a huge proportion of businesses will need the facilities to be, again, local unpressurised centres in which an evaluation of a technology can take place. 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Fri, 14 Nov 1997 14:56:23 +0000 Received: from mail.magnet.at [193.80.248.11] by teletub with esmtp (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xWNAS-00023X-00; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 14:56:21 +0000 Received: from mis (mis.magnet.at [195.170.70.84]) by mail.magnet.at (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA23348; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 15:54:32 +0100 (CET) From: "Günter J. Woltron" To: david@communities.org.uk Cc: iacn@sheffield.ac.uk, conet@ukco.org.uk, co-europe@loud-n-clear.com Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 15:55:46 +0100 Subject: Re: Community networking resources site Message-ID: References: Organization: magnet Online Service MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-ID: X-Gateway: NASTA Gate 2.0 beta 3 for FirstClass(R) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: conet@ukco.org.uk hello everybody,=20 =20 we had a stimulating 5-year-anniversary-party of the europe`s=20 secondlargest nonprofit city network (almost 8000 regular user) -=20 it=B4s the Viennese BLACK.BOX. Based on First Class, they are now also=20 opening the WWW for their user. =20 "Satellite-Boxes" are in Budapest and Brussels.=20 =20 Coop. with the EACN is of course desired, we also try "things" to=20 promote.=20 =20 greetings from Vienna, Gunter=20 From owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Sat Nov 15 21:02:31 1997 Received: from majordom by teletub with local (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xWpLR-0002z3-00; Sat, 15 Nov 1997 21:01:33 +0000 Received: from quark.foobar.net [194.164.91.2] (root) by teletub with esmtp (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xWpLO-0002yy-00; Sat, 15 Nov 1997 21:01:31 +0000 Received: from telework.foobar.co.uk (telework.foobar.co.uk [194.164.93.150]) by quark.foobar.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA27819 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 1997 20:59:55 GMT Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 20:59:55 GMT Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19971115220024.26b70408@foobar.net> X-Sender: telework@foobar.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: conet@ukco.org.uk From: Trevor Locke Subject: Re: Community networking resources site Sender: owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: conet@ukco.org.uk Ah ha .... >we had a stimulating 5-year-anniversary-party of the europe`s=20 >secondlargest nonprofit city network (almost 8000 regular user) -=20 >it=B4s the Viennese BLACK.BOX. Based on First Class, they are now also=20 >opening the WWW for their user. =20 another reference to First Class Has anyone else got any case studies of the use of First Class - Ive come across it before and it keeps cropping up - does any one have a URL for its home page on the web? Trevor Trevor Locke, Event and Project Services, Internet Services Helping the world to talk. Developing new projects telework@foobar.co.uk # http://members.aol.com/webwork/ From owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Sun Nov 16 05:20:41 1997 Received: from majordom by teletub with local (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xWx8G-00037O-00; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 05:20:28 +0000 Received: from si.umich.edu [141.211.203.32] by teletub with smtp (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xWx8E-00037J-00; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 05:20:26 +0000 Received: from testlogin.si.umich.edu by si.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with SMTP id AAA19518; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 00:17:38 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 00:18:34 -0500 (EST) From: "Charlotte L. Gerstein" X-Sender: cgerstei@testlogin.si.umich.edu To: conet@ukco.org.uk Subject: telecottage In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.16.19971112225626.1d778234@geo2.poptel.org.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: conet@ukco.org.uk Pardon my ignorance, but what exactly is a Telecottage? Is there some other term for it in the U.S.? > >I think you have missed out the Telecottage/Telecentre network and the fact > >that it spawns resource centres and telematic facilities in village halls. > >I think people need to know what is there already so that they don't > >re-invent the wheel, but build on what is already there..... Thanks. *********************************************** Charlotte Gerstein cgerstei@umich.edu School of Information, University of Michigan *********************************************** From owner-conet@ukco.org.uk Sun Nov 16 11:06:09 1997 Received: from majordom by teletub with local (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xX2WY-0003C1-00; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 11:05:54 +0000 Received: from florence.pavilion.net [194.242.128.25] by teletub with esmtp (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xX2WW-0003Bv-00; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 11:05:53 +0000 Received: from [194.242.131.139] (dialup2-03.pavilion.co.uk [194.242.131.131]) by florence.pavilion.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA18427 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 11:03:48 GMT Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 11:03:48 GMT X-Sender: dwilcox@mailhost.pavilion.co.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.16.19971115220024.26b70408@foobar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: te